hehe ... finally get to see el last saturday
hehe.. I know i know.. we look gud ....hehe...sorry guys for not putting any other pics...cos wen bak early .. and didnt manage to take a lot of pics la... will get it from my fren sooon !..byebye
Monday, March 31, 2008
it has been a while
hehe ... finally get to see el last saturday hehe.. I know i know.. we look gud ....hehe...sorry guys for not putting any other pics...cos wen bak early .. and didnt manage to take a lot of pics la... will get it from my fren sooon !..byebye
Saturday, March 29, 2008
Science vs God
Science vs. God
'Let me explain the problem science has with Jesus Christ.' The
atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of
his new students to stand.
'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'
'Yes sir,' the student says.
'So you believe in God?'
'Absolutely.'
'Is God good?'
'Sure! God's good.'
'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'
'Yes.'
'Are you good or evil?'
'The Bible says I'm evil.'
The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible!' He considers for a moment.
'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can
cure him. You can do it. Would you help him. Would you try?'
'Yes sir, I would.'
'So you're good...!'
'I wouldn't say that.'
'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most
of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'
The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't,does
he?
My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus
to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?'
The student remains silent.
'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a
glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.
'Let's start again, young fella Is God good?'
'Er...yes,' the student says.
'Is Satan good?'
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'
'Then where does Satan come from?'
The student : 'From...God...'
'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this
world?'
'Yes, sir.'
'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?'
'Yes.'
'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything,
then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that
our works define who we are, then God is evil.'
Without allowing the student to answer, the professor continues: 'Is there
sickness, Immorality, Hatred, Ugliness, All these terrible things,do they
exist in this world?'
The student: 'Yes.'
'So who created them?'
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question.
'Who created them? There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks
away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized.
'Tell me,' he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus
Christ, son?'
The student's voice is confident: 'Yes, professor, I do.'
The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to
identify and observe the world around you.
Have you ever seen Jesus?'
'No sir. I've never seen Him'
'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'
'No, sir, I have not.'
'Have you ever actually felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your
Jesus?
Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that
matter?'
'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'
'Yet you still believe in him?'
'Yes.'
'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol,science
says your God doesn't exist.
What do you say to that, son?'
'Nothing,' the student replies. 'I only have my faith.'
'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has
with God. There is no evidence, only faith.'
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of his
own.
'Professor, is there such thing as heat?'
'Yes,' the professor replies. 'There's heat.'
'And is there such a thing as cold?'
'Yes, son, there's cold too.'
'No sir, there isn't.'
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room
suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain.
'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited
heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called
'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we
can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we
would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees.
Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy,
and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute
zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word
we use to describe the
absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units
because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the
absence of it.'
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding
like a hammer.
'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'
'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it isn't
darkness?'
'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of
something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing
light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called
darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality,
darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker,
wouldn't you?'
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a
good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?'
'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start
with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can
you explain how?'
'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains. 'You
argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God.
You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can
measure.
Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism,
but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as
the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as
a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of
it.'
'Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a
monkey?'
'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of
course I do'
'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where
the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.
'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot
even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching
your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?'
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has
subsided.
'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me
give you an example of what I mean.'
The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has ever
seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter.
'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt
the professor's brain, touched or smelled the professor's brain? No one
appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical,
stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all
due respect, sir. So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your
lectures, sir?'
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face
unreadable. Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I
guess? you'll have to take them on faith.'
'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,'
the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?'
Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it
everyday.
It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude
of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are
nothing else but evil.'
To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does
not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like
darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of
God.
God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not
have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when
there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'
The professor sat down.
'Let me explain the problem science has with Jesus Christ.' The
atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of
his new students to stand.
'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'
'Yes sir,' the student says.
'So you believe in God?'
'Absolutely.'
'Is God good?'
'Sure! God's good.'
'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'
'Yes.'
'Are you good or evil?'
'The Bible says I'm evil.'
The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible!' He considers for a moment.
'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can
cure him. You can do it. Would you help him. Would you try?'
'Yes sir, I would.'
'So you're good...!'
'I wouldn't say that.'
'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most
of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'
The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't,does
he?
My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus
to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?'
The student remains silent.
'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a
glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.
'Let's start again, young fella Is God good?'
'Er...yes,' the student says.
'Is Satan good?'
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'
'Then where does Satan come from?'
The student : 'From...God...'
'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this
world?'
'Yes, sir.'
'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?'
'Yes.'
'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything,
then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that
our works define who we are, then God is evil.'
Without allowing the student to answer, the professor continues: 'Is there
sickness, Immorality, Hatred, Ugliness, All these terrible things,do they
exist in this world?'
The student: 'Yes.'
'So who created them?'
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question.
'Who created them? There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks
away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized.
'Tell me,' he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus
Christ, son?'
The student's voice is confident: 'Yes, professor, I do.'
The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to
identify and observe the world around you.
Have you ever seen Jesus?'
'No sir. I've never seen Him'
'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'
'No, sir, I have not.'
'Have you ever actually felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your
Jesus?
Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that
matter?'
'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'
'Yet you still believe in him?'
'Yes.'
'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol,science
says your God doesn't exist.
What do you say to that, son?'
'Nothing,' the student replies. 'I only have my faith.'
'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has
with God. There is no evidence, only faith.'
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of his
own.
'Professor, is there such thing as heat?'
'Yes,' the professor replies. 'There's heat.'
'And is there such a thing as cold?'
'Yes, son, there's cold too.'
'No sir, there isn't.'
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room
suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain.
'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited
heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called
'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we
can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we
would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees.
Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy,
and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute
zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word
we use to describe the
absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units
because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the
absence of it.'
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding
like a hammer.
'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'
'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it isn't
darkness?'
'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of
something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing
light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called
darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality,
darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker,
wouldn't you?'
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a
good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?'
'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start
with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can
you explain how?'
'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains. 'You
argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God.
You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can
measure.
Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism,
but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as
the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as
a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of
it.'
'Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a
monkey?'
'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of
course I do'
'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where
the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.
'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot
even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching
your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?'
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has
subsided.
'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me
give you an example of what I mean.'
The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has ever
seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter.
'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt
the professor's brain, touched or smelled the professor's brain? No one
appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical,
stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all
due respect, sir. So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your
lectures, sir?'
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face
unreadable. Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I
guess? you'll have to take them on faith.'
'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,'
the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?'
Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it
everyday.
It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude
of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are
nothing else but evil.'
To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does
not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like
darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of
God.
God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not
have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when
there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'
The professor sat down.
Wednesday, March 26, 2008
Sports is gud but not Sports day
Blu hse
green hse
scouts
yellow
blue again
i do not know wat this is
this was the prize awarding ceremony
HAdi !
every hse fighting !
I like this shotbyebye
by james
Thursday, March 20, 2008
Can't Get enough of it
HAd to go to skool, on a holiday man !!!
woke up early in the morning for this !
yea so thats like me, vinod n jaf did.. nice isnt it.. admit it !
the form 3s doing their own muriul
the form 4 guys
pretending to do work... nah just kidding .... they did a lot
kar kei
san ju's job
deBRA !!
kristin dun kill me !
nice eh?
woke up early in the morning for this !
yea so thats like me, vinod n jaf did.. nice isnt it.. admit it !
the form 3s doing their own muriul
the form 4 guys
pretending to do work... nah just kidding .... they did a lot
kar kei
san ju's job
deBRA !!
kristin dun kill me !
nice eh?byes
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
Exams =(
CHEMISTRY !!! DYING already
its actually a photostated paper but yea... will look more real
even pretend write also so tireed already ....
lol
welll i fell asleep for a while
was bored
cant really see
yea it was after chem exams ... wen at my room
by JAMES
Monday, March 3, 2008
Long lost time - BRINGING BACK THE MEMORIES
Remember these people??
at first they were in their own groups
Get wat I mean ?
Mark the camera guy..
Then we got to mix around
until now ... some of us feel lonely without them
our face tells the story
The main part of the camp
still got time to pose
while some people were doing work
I was caught not doing anything
but in the end it went well
Now let the games begin
team building
Giving our all Praising God
Fun time
a decent picture....
is not always decentdone by...
well . the objective of this post is to tell ALL OF YOU YOUTHS that there will be a COMBINED YOUTH MEETING by SHAH ALAM YOUTH on the 29th of March. make that date free.. as this will be the time where we can see me !!! hahaha... no la. bet all of you guys miss your friends rit ?? SO YEA .. BE A MAN . DO THE RIGHT THING !
well . the objective of this post is to tell ALL OF YOU YOUTHS that there will be a COMBINED YOUTH MEETING by SHAH ALAM YOUTH on the 29th of March. make that date free.. as this will be the time where we can see me !!! hahaha... no la. bet all of you guys miss your friends rit ?? SO YEA .. BE A MAN . DO THE RIGHT THING !
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